Bots in lutgardis - Guild Wars Forums

hippo942 · Apr 15, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Hey

When I do HFFF I always see people running to the Melandru's sign then running out of the door and they do this every run.

Just wondering are these bots as surely Anet would have banned them by now or are they using some other program that is legal?

Just thinking should I report these people for botting or not

Thanks for your time ( sorry for the bad post title )

Lord Galdir · Apr 15, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14

When I did a lot of HFFF, I always scanned for the sign and clicked it and did some guildchat while I was autorunning.
Lutgardis is very symmetrical, can't count the times I have run to the wrong exit.

hippo942 · Apr 15, 2008, 08:32 AM // 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Galdir

When I did a lot of HFFF, I always scanned for the sign and clicked it and did some guildchat while I was autorunning.
Lutgardis is very symmetrical, can't count the times I have run to the wrong exit.

Yep but doing it every run and I even pmed them and no answer so they not even there

chaztky · Apr 15, 2008, 09:09 AM // 09:09

there a report function now u can try to report them if u like.

Ghostcell · Apr 15, 2008, 09:27 AM // 09:27

maybe they didn't to chat, clicking the sign is much easier then running upto the exit from the middle.
/report them if you want, but don't cry to us if anet says they weren't botting and bans you for false reporting

hippo942 · Apr 15, 2008, 10:04 AM // 10:04

lol its pretty dam obviuos that they arent there and I think most people can notice if about 5 people run in exactly the same path every single time and would be impossile and pointless to do if you werent a bot

Pesi · Apr 15, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47

just report them, and the anet guys will check it up, no harm done if they dont bot.

CagedinSanity · Apr 15, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54

People are just fast with it, doesn't make them bots.
I leeched with a couple of people. They didn't talk at all because they has so many windows open, had to pay attention.

But they had to invite/accept me, didn't they? So they're there.

lorazcyk · Apr 15, 2008, 12:09 PM // 12:09

I do that in every single town... every single time I need to go to an outpost. I do it because I have bad eyes and I'd rather hit semi colon + space or look for the yellow marker, than try to turn around etc to get to the exit (if I do this, I'll get the wrong path for sure!)
In lutgardis, yup you bet it, it's so repetitive I don't want to spend time doing YET another boring thing: finding the exit. If I have the option to semi colon space it, I do it.

360?? · Apr 15, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22

There are lots of bots in there, no doubt about it.

Alex Dimitri · Apr 15, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Well i`m doin` those runs and i didn`t actualy noticed anything to unusual, Lutgardis is one of more talkative places in game.And yes even if someone whisp me i can`t answer cause i have like one huge map window open and i`m micro manage the heroes for run, i don`t even talk to people i take in party for runs....i`m not that fast and u can easily lost run if u forget something !

Fried Tech · Apr 15, 2008, 01:32 PM // 13:32

not bots. just players.
after doing a run a couple of thousand times you get pretty efficient at it

Enko · Apr 15, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16

i'm usually watching tv (so sound off) when i'm doing runs and i have the map open. usually can't tell when someone's talking to me.

Chaos55 · Apr 15, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26

I usually click the flag when I need to go afk or take a short break but thats just me. When running out to zone, I always zig zag a bit outta boredom so I'm not confused for a bot when zoning with chocolate bunnies.

hippo942 · Apr 15, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

lol ok ignore the bit where i said that they dont talk its just abit strange that they run to the flag and then move like they using a touchpad..

Serenitysong · Apr 15, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

No doubt that some of the people in Lutgardis are legit, but it's also a bot paradise. I've talked to quite a number of people who openly admit to using automated macro programs to run it while they are afk, asleep, playing other accounts etc. Sadly, I don't think Anet cares because they don't see it has having a significant impact on the economy...but it does. Bots running that non-stop can rake in large sums of gold. Perhaps Anet refuses to deal with it because it's difficult to tell the bots from the real players for the reasons mentioned in this post.

rick1027 · Apr 15, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

i actually thought i might have noticed a few myself seeing i farm out of of there along with doing hfff. im glad i responded to that person the other day who asked me something in chat while i was hfff.

Shai Lee · Apr 15, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Early on when doing HFFF in Lutgardis, I would go out the wrong portal or run toward the wrong portal due to getting confused. The Town is pretty much symmetrical. >.< So, now I just click on the sign to make sure I'm going the right way. I'm also a zombie due to doing the same thing over and over. As it is, my connection isn't the fastest, so if a stranger starts chatting me up, I may or may not answer. Usually I'm more focused on getting the run over with or getting out of lag to be chatty. It depends on what you say in chat too, if you sound like a bot, maybe players are having misconceptions about you as well. :P

Jenn · Apr 15, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Are there bots? Sure - you can pick up scripts for it by googling. Although the primary search results come up with a person having pay for access to download scripts, they are out there. But I'd have to say, the vast majority of faction farmers are not botters. I think enough people know the risk that they have just streamlined the process. When I get into HFFF, I'm sure as hell going to be looking for a way to streamline that process, and if I look like a goofy bot, so be it!

Kagawa Kaze · Apr 16, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

There were some very good HFFF'ers in my guild, and they used that method of just moving around fast because they were trying to minimize the time spent getting to/from...so yeah, there verly likely could be bots at Lutgardis, but could also be some of the "pros"

I don't think it's a big deal...more power to them if they make it efficient.

Apr 15, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47	#1
hippo942 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: England Guild: Yes I do have a guild, Thanks for asking Profession: N/	Bots in lutgardis Hey When I do HFFF I always see people running to the Melandru's sign then running out of the door and they do this every run. Just wondering are these bots as surely Anet would have banned them by now or are they using some other program that is legal? Just thinking should I report these people for botting or not Thanks for your time ( sorry for the bad post title )

Apr 15, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26	#14
Chaos55 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: Mo/E	I usually click the flag when I need to go afk or take a short break but thats just me. When running out to zone, I always zig zag a bit outta boredom so I'm not confused for a bot when zoning with chocolate bunnies. Last edited by Chaos55; Apr 15, 2008 at 02:37 PM // 14:37..

Apr 15, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29	#19
Jenn Resigned. Join Date: Sep 2006	Are there bots? Sure - you can pick up scripts for it by googling. Although the primary search results come up with a person having pay for access to download scripts, they are out there. But I'd have to say, the vast majority of faction farmers are not botters. I think enough people know the risk that they have just streamlined the process. When I get into HFFF, I'm sure as hell going to be looking for a way to streamline that process, and if I look like a goofy bot, so be it! __________________ "Let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we???ll change the world." Jack Layton

Apr 15, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14	#2
Lord Galdir Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Netherlands Profession: P/	When I did a lot of HFFF, I always scanned for the sign and clicked it and did some guildchat while I was autorunning. Lutgardis is very symmetrical, can't count the times I have run to the wrong exit.

Apr 15, 2008, 09:09 AM // 09:09	#4
chaztky Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: SingMa Profession: N/	there a report function now u can try to report them if u like.

Apr 15, 2008, 09:27 AM // 09:27	#5
Ghostcell Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: =VX9= Profession: N/Mo	maybe they didn't to chat, clicking the sign is much easier then running upto the exit from the middle. /report them if you want, but don't cry to us if anet says they weren't botting and bans you for false reporting

Apr 15, 2008, 10:04 AM // 10:04	#6
hippo942 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: England Guild: Yes I do have a guild, Thanks for asking Profession: N/	lol its pretty dam obviuos that they arent there and I think most people can notice if about 5 people run in exactly the same path every single time and would be impossile and pointless to do if you werent a bot

Apr 15, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47	#7
Pesi Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Droknars Forge Guild: No Goats No Glory Profession: Me/	just report them, and the anet guys will check it up, no harm done if they dont bot.

Apr 15, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54	#8
CagedinSanity Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Away from you. Profession: W/	People are just fast with it, doesn't make them bots. I leeched with a couple of people. They didn't talk at all because they has so many windows open, had to pay attention. But they had to invite/accept me, didn't they? So they're there.

Apr 15, 2008, 12:09 PM // 12:09	#9
lorazcyk Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: guildwiki.org/User:Lorazcyk Profession: Mo/	I do that in every single town... every single time I need to go to an outpost. I do it because I have bad eyes and I'd rather hit semi colon + space or look for the yellow marker, than try to turn around etc to get to the exit (if I do this, I'll get the wrong path for sure!) In lutgardis, yup you bet it, it's so repetitive I don't want to spend time doing YET another boring thing: finding the exit. If I have the option to semi colon space it, I do it.

Apr 15, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22	#10
360?? Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: F͊̕҉̡͍̘͍̜̬̲̪u͒͗̍̽ͭ& Guild: F͊̕҉̡͍̘͍̜̬̲̪u͒͗̍̽ͭ& Profession: W/Mo	There are lots of bots in there, no doubt about it.

Apr 15, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15	#11
Alex Dimitri Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: Passionate Kiss Of Nosferatu [KISS] Profession: N/Mo	Well i`m doin` those runs and i didn`t actualy noticed anything to unusual, Lutgardis is one of more talkative places in game.And yes even if someone whisp me i can`t answer cause i have like one huge map window open and i`m micro manage the heroes for run, i don`t even talk to people i take in party for runs....i`m not that fast and u can easily lost run if u forget something !

Apr 15, 2008, 01:32 PM // 13:32	#12
Fried Tech Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: [Yeti] Profession: E/	not bots. just players. after doing a run a couple of thousand times you get pretty efficient at it

Apr 15, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16	#13
Enko Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: VA Profession: Mo/	i'm usually watching tv (so sound off) when i'm doing runs and i have the map open. usually can't tell when someone's talking to me.

Apr 15, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04	#15
hippo942 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: England Guild: Yes I do have a guild, Thanks for asking Profession: N/	lol ok ignore the bit where i said that they dont talk its just abit strange that they run to the flag and then move like they using a touchpad..

Apr 15, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55	#16
Serenitysong Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: Clandestiny of Solitude [LaZy] Profession: E/	No doubt that some of the people in Lutgardis are legit, but it's also a bot paradise. I've talked to quite a number of people who openly admit to using automated macro programs to run it while they are afk, asleep, playing other accounts etc. Sadly, I don't think Anet cares because they don't see it has having a significant impact on the economy...but it does. Bots running that non-stop can rake in large sums of gold. Perhaps Anet refuses to deal with it because it's difficult to tell the bots from the real players for the reasons mentioned in this post.

Apr 15, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57	#17
rick1027 Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: W/R	i actually thought i might have noticed a few myself seeing i farm out of of there along with doing hfff. im glad i responded to that person the other day who asked me something in chat while i was hfff.

Apr 15, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#18
Shai Lee Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Somewhere	Early on when doing HFFF in Lutgardis, I would go out the wrong portal or run toward the wrong portal due to getting confused. The Town is pretty much symmetrical. >.< So, now I just click on the sign to make sure I'm going the right way. I'm also a zombie due to doing the same thing over and over. As it is, my connection isn't the fastest, so if a stranger starts chatting me up, I may or may not answer. Usually I'm more focused on getting the run over with or getting out of lag to be chatty. It depends on what you say in chat too, if you sound like a bot, maybe players are having misconceptions about you as well. :P

Apr 16, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33	#20
Kagawa Kaze Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Guild: Cloisters of Chaos Profession: R/E	There were some very good HFFF'ers in my guild, and they used that method of just moving around fast because they were trying to minimize the time spent getting to/from...so yeah, there verly likely could be bots at Lutgardis, but could also be some of the "pros" I don't think it's a big deal...more power to them if they make it efficient.